Left 4 Dead 2 Dedicated

[matwalsh]

(must be on Wug to see count)

Server : 172.18.12.146

Coop 1: port 11301
Coop 2: port 11302
Versus : port 11303 (need 2 or more players - need to be tested still)

Servers default to normal difficulty but voting system works to change it easily.

http://l4d2.vines.ctwug.za.net - for all info about the server, setup, tip & trick, weapons and live player stats! Also include server status to see what session are active/full.

Will list all the mods and their descriptions soon - they are not a definite, if players find they don't like a mod it gets the boot.

Still more work to be done on it!

[faulty_it]

I'll be back on the 9th aka this friday.:) love 2 be a test subject.

[matwalsh]

server ready for testing - no one beside faulty (and my other two l4d2 usuals) play or are interested in l4d2? Sarge?

[Ryan]

I'll help. What version you running?

[matwalsh]

awesome - I built the dedi latest 2.0.9.3

Have all the incremental updates if you need - server will only be on during testing times though, its a 1u so a bit noisey - will be hosted elsewhere once sure its all good.

[SargE]

lol matwalsh, thnx for ur pm. I'll be your testing dummy! Give your testing times u wana test. I think I have all your updates, so i'll just in.

[matwalsh]

there were 3 updates since the torrent I uploaded last time, the three new ones are shared

[faulty_it]

Awesume How well the server worked and the dyn website that keeps stats a real winner:D than alot matt:D

[matwalsh]

still some tweaking, I think that random hiccup is client side snd cache - will update the install guide to include it. Hopefully organise with Scimi to rack tonight :)

[faulty_it]

Awesume yah I haven't done that command line thing it's a bit difficult to grasp it don't know where to look mabe a more user friendly explanation would be great:D

[matwalsh]

I will def make the how to more detailed and user friendly, it was a quick html slap together whilst fighting with other things :)

[SargE]

Ok toets ons weer n bietjie vanaand!?

[matwalsh]

fyi for now server is up - new ip is 172.18.12.146 ports 11301 to 11303

I am making a how to guide for setup etc. feel free to play - I might pop in.

[faulty_it]

Added it to the wiki under servers list

[SargE]

So, tomorrow we gona have the server full and let the server crash? Who's in for a game tomorrow thats not going on a long weekend :(?

[faulty_it]

I'll try join after 23:00 hehe???

[matwalsh]

updated the web page some more and installed microdc on the l4d2 server to help seed patches
tomorrow sounds like a possible plan

[SargE]

Sounds great guys. Il be playing possible that time Faulty. Is the server ip still 172.18.12.146. Great job matwalsh. The web page is nice, can check who is playing and the stats system awesome. Real nice work.

[matwalsh]

link was down last night - sorry about that, maybe tonight :P

[faulty_it]

Lol what? nah I forgot got lost in minecraft so no probs:)

[matwalsh]

So tonight 9PM - need 3 people :) - before I go any further with mods we need to test the server preferably for a full campaign with 4 players.

After successful (hopefully) test I'll look into mods for changing game type.

[faulty_it]

Awe soz man I'd love to help. But my bro's got a friend over so there's no way 4 me to play:( also am realy sick ---->came down with cold...

[SargE]

Cool, be there from 20h30 onwards!

[matwalsh]

Finally 4 people on at the end. Didn't see any of the lock ups I had before so either I'll blame faulty not rebuilding his sound cache or its the extra caching mod I installed. Will dig through esx tomorrow to see how the usage was to see how much we can actually run on the box.

thanks guys!

[matwalsh]

Added some stuff to the website including a calendar to schedule when you can play to make sure 4 people. If interest pics up I'll definitely add another fork as the server is only hitting 25% with full load.

[matwalsh]

Added vote system for difficulty changes.
More web content (guide and weapon info).

[faulty_it]

Finally 4 people on at the end. Didn't see any of the lock ups I had before so either I'll blame faulty not rebuilding his sound cache
thanks guys!

Lol it wasn't me I wasn't there:D

Hay tried to access the webpage via the URL link on the Wiki it failed but when I put the IP in my browser the web page loaded this was at 09:31 :)
Also having some issuse posting a event in non gaming time will try again in gaming time

PS love the website it's awesome:D Well done

[matwalsh]

For the few of you playing and any that potentially plan on I need a vote/opinion on a plugin.

PERKMOD

https://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=99305

With this however I would probably set the default difficulty to Hard (which can be changed now via vote system if you are still getting beat down by zombies).

I also need to try get 2 more players we can call on to get two Coop games running at the same time to bench the server. We currently have 5 that can easily be reached and 1 coming back from or already back from holiday.

[SargE]

Hey SOulForge thanks for all the effort on this. The game is out of trend now but your mods makes it worthwhile and fun again. Im sure DeathWish can help with the testing ;>

[TC_Drum]

Ill join you guys

[SargE]

Great :D rimder to find all the details here http://l4d2.vines.ctwug.za.net

[matwalsh]

awesome, the more the merrier.

Sorry for server up down tonight - trying to get a steam master server going - I will however give up soon :P

[matwalsh]

Vote system in the menu working perfectly, no more stupid typing.
press escape to get to menu - click the call a vote option and off you go. Also MUCH easier to change campaigns this way.

Tomorrow will bring a list of mods for you guys to vote on - or I can just do them, you play and give feedback :P

[SargE]

Cool, will be testing and zombie smashing!

[Sselmrah]

Great :D rimder to find all the details here http://l4d2.vines.ctwug.za.net

blank page for me

[matwalsh]

Sorry, should be all fixed now, plugin I was testing reset all the file rights :P

[matwalsh]

Just added a bucket load of plugins, not sure how they will behave, thats what testing is for, I can't with pings at the moment.
plugins are all still stock settings, need much tweaking still.

[matwalsh]

EDIT: Going to add an extra Co-op fork tomorrow at work due to the potential number of players - will shift ports so 11301 an 11302 are coop and 11303 is vs(which still needs testing). Will assess past that if we need to add more and if the server can handle more. If there is more interest then that there is a second server waiting.

Going to remove direct download links for files tomorrow night, port 80 isn't capped during gaming hours so its killing the server with people downloading the client (people downloading is great, slow down not so much). The site does mention alternate methods to get the files. I'll keep latest patches only from tomorrow onwards.

[Loukie]

ill give it a shot.

[warlock072]

hey guys,

ive downloaded the torrent as well as the patches etc via DC...i'm not 100% sure which one i should be using but i'll them both tonight.

[ArchAngel]

count me in, just gotta get the game and updates off TT and ill see wth i do to join, look forward to some bloodshed :D

[faulty_it]

lol I have to get it again myself formatted my bro's PC the other day...

[matwalsh]

Have activated the second coop in case of more then 4 people wanting to play.
Have added a server status page to the website to list sessions up/down as well as number of players.

[matwalsh]

Great to see new names registered in the stats page!

Added a comments section to the bottom of the home page where you can post any issues or suggestions.
EDIT: Also added players names online in server status page + special infected spawned (side effect as bots and specials are considered players).

[matwalsh]

Awesome test on versus server tonight!

Removed automatic campaign switcher in favour of Force Mission Changer to fix versus bug.

People need to make sure they make a shortcut and change the +clientport option to 11300.

[matwalsh]

if there are more people on then last night the versus fork will be full. If the interest is more in versus then coop tell me tonight and I'll swop the second coop fork for a second versus.
(per versus fork max 8 players)

[McDuck]

Can anyone get hold of the Mac version of the game for me?

[matwalsh]

no dual boot windows by any chance?
I know they have made a mac one, no idea how to get/update it though.

[matwalsh]

ok, hopefully tomorrow the intermittent latency between kingpin and skouperd won't be an issue. I have given up tonight on increasing the number of players for versus, its breaking the coop games. I will try separate coop and versus so I can load separate plugins but for now versus stays 8 players. If we have lots of interest I can get rid of coop2 for another versus instead.

I will be away next 2 days so need feedback.

[Refugees]

Where did my stats go?
I had +- 7,300 points last night :mad:
Please fix Matwalsh

[Loukie]

I think there is something wrong with the point system before i went offline this morning i was ranked 6 the moment i went offline and had a look at the leader boad it shows i have -318 can you have a look at it please?
Can you at least explain to us how the point system works like i know when all team mates die 350 is taken off bat for what ls is points being deducted

[Loukie]

ok, hopefully tomorrow the intermittent latency between kingpin and skouperd won't be an issue. I have given up tonight on increasing the number of players for versus, its breaking the coop games. I will try separate coop and versus so I can load separate plugins but for now versus stays 8 players. If we have lots of interest I can get rid of coop2 for another versus instead.

I will be away next 2 days so need feedback.
NOOOOOO do net get rid of co-op we like it a lot of us still play co-op

[matwalsh]

Sup guys,

If the coop forks are being used I won't get rid of them, server has only really been live for 3 or 4 days now so I don't know what people want, it was just a suggestion :)

As to the points, you lose a large amount of points for dying, team fire etc.
e.g. if you fail an end stage 4 times in a row its something like 800 or 1000 points total deducted. I can disable point loss if the general consensus is to get rid of them, the stat scores are default as they were coded by the creator, they can be tweaked :)

I'll be back in cpt soon so we can discuss then, get a group of all players on TS or something and we can decide, server is for you guys so whatever the majority wants I'll do :)

[matwalsh]

OK, here is the point break down in detail. Please note killing team mates also counts against you - by any chance did anyone kill a bot cause they do count as team mates.


// This file was auto-generated by SourceMod (v1.4.2-dev)
// ConVars for plugin "l4d_stats.smx"


// How many months old players (last online time) will be cleaned. 0 = Disabled
// -
l4d_stats_adm_cleanoldplayers "0"

// How many minutes of playtime to not get cleaned from stats. 0 = Disabled
// -
l4d_stats_adm_cleanplaytime "30"

// [L4D2] Base score for giving Adrenaline to a friendly
// -
l4d_stats_adrenaline "15"

// Chat announcment mode. 0 = Off, 1 = Player Only, 2 = Player Only w/ Public Headshots, 3 = All Public
// -
// Default: "1"
l4d_stats_announcemode "1"

// Chat announcment for rank change
// -
l4d_stats_announcerank "1"

// Rank change check interval
// -
l4d_stats_announcerankinterval "60"

// Chat announcment team messages to the team only mode. 0 = Print messages to all teams, 1 = Print messages to own team only, 2 = Print messages to own team and spectators only
// -
l4d_stats_announceteam "2"

// Base score for killing a Boomer
// -
l4d_stats_boomer "5"

// Base team score for surviving a Boomer Mob with no Incapacitations
// -
l4d_stats_boomermob "10"

// The number of survivors that needs to get blinded to earn Boomer Perfect Vomit Award and success points
// -
l4d_stats_boomerperfecthits "4"

// Base score for a successful Boomer Perfect Vomit
// -
l4d_stats_boomerperfectsuccess "30"

// Base score for a successfully vomiting on survivor
// -
l4d_stats_boomersuccess "5"

// Multiplier to use when receiving bot related score penalty. 0 = Disable
// -
l4d_stats_botscoremultiplier "1.0"

// Damage inflicted by Tank to earn Bulldozer Award and success points
// -
l4d_stats_bulldozer "200"

// Base score for Bulldozer Award
// -
l4d_stats_bulldozersuccess "50"

// Base score for Completing a Campaign
// -
l4d_stats_campaign "5"

// [L4D2] Base score for a Triggering Car Alarm
// -
l4d_stats_caralarm "50"

// [L4D2] Base score for killing a Charger
// -
l4d_stats_charger "5"

// [L4D2] Base score for saving a friendly from a Charger Carry
// -
l4d_stats_chargercarry "15"

// [L4D2] Base score for saving a friendly from a Charger Plummel
// -
l4d_stats_chargerplummel "10"

// The number of impacts on survivors to earn Scattering Ram Award and success points
// -
l4d_stats_chargerramhits "4"

// Base score for a successful Charger Scattering Ram
// -
l4d_stats_chargerramsuccess "40"

// Base score for saving a friendly from a Hunter Pounce / Smoker Choke
// -
l4d_stats_chokepounce "10"

// [L4D2] Base score for using a Defibrillator on a friendly
// -
l4d_stats_defib "20"

// [L4D2] Base score for deploying ammo upgrade pack
// -
l4d_stats_deployammoupgrade "10"

// Show 'Stats Disabled' messages, allow chat commands to work when stats disabled. 0 = Hide messages/disable chat, 1 = Show messages/allow chat
// -
l4d_stats_disabledmessages "1"

// Enable/Disable coop stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enablecoop "1"

// [L4D2] Enable/Disable mutations stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enablemutations "1"

// Enable point losses (negative score)
// -
l4d_stats_enablenegativescore "1"

// Enable voting of team shuffle by player PPM (Points Per Minute)
// -
l4d_stats_enablerankvote "1"

// [L4D2] Enable/Disable realism stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enablerealism "1"

// [L4D2] Enable/Disable realism versus stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enablerealismvs "1"

// [L4D2] Enable/Disable scavenge stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enablescavenge "1"

// Enable/Disable survival stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enablesv "1"

// [L4D2] Enable/Disable team realism versus stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enableteamrealismvs "1"

// [L4D2] Enable/Disable team scavenge stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enableteamscavenge "1"

// [L4D2] Enable/Disable team versus stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enableteamversus "1"

// Enable/Disable versus stat tracking
// -
l4d_stats_enableversus "1"

// Base score for Friendly Fire
// -
l4d_stats_ffire "25"

// Time in seconds for friendly fire cooldown
// -
l4d_stats_ffire_cooldown "10.0"

// Friendly fire cooldown mode. 0 = Disable, 1 = Player specific, 2 = General
// -
// Default: "1"
l4d_stats_ffire_cooldownmode "1"

// Friendly fire mode. 0 = Normal, 1 = Cooldown, 2 = Damage based
// -
l4d_stats_ffire_mode "2"

// Friendly fire damage multiplier (Formula: Score = Damage * Multiplier)
// -
l4d_stats_ffire_multiplier "1.5"

// Base score for a Friendly Incap
// -
l4d_stats_fincap "75"

// Base score for a Friendly Kill
// -
l4d_stats_fkill "250"

// [L4D2] Base score for successfully pouring a gascan
// -
l4d_stats_gascanpoured "5"

// Base score for killing a Hunter
// -
l4d_stats_hunter "2"

// Hunter stored damage cap
// -
l4d_stats_hunterdamagecap "25"

// Base score for killing a Common Infected
// -
l4d_stats_infected "1"

// The amount of damage inflicted to Survivors to earn 1 point
// -
l4d_stats_infected_damage "2"

// Base victory score for Infected Team
// -
l4d_stats_infected_win "30"

// Base score for letting Infected in the Safe Room
// -
l4d_stats_insaferoom "5"

// [L4D2] Base score for killing a Jockey
// -
l4d_stats_jockey "5"

// [L4D2] Base score for saving a friendly from a Jockey Ride
// -
l4d_stats_jockeyride "10"

// Base score for causing a survivor to grap a ledge
// -
l4d_stats_ledgegrap "15"

// [L4D2] Base score for killing a charging Charger with a melee weapon
// -
l4d_stats_matador "30"

// Survival medic points enabled
// -
l4d_stats_medicpointssv "0"

// Base score for using a Medkit on a friendly
// -
l4d_stats_medkit "20"

// Add score reduction when bot uses a medkit. 0 = No, 1 = Bot uses a Medkit to a human player, 2 = Bot uses a Medkit to other than itself, 3 = Yes
// -
l4d_stats_medkitbotmode "1"

// Medkit point award mode. 0 = Based on amount healed, 1 = Static amount
// -
l4d_stats_medkitmode "0"

// Score reduction for all Survivor earned points for each used Medkit (Formula: Score = NormalPoints * (1 - MedkitsUsed * MedkitPenalty))
// -
l4d_stats_medkitpenalty "0.1"

// Team Survivors can use this many Medkits for free without any reduction to the score
// -
l4d_stats_medkitpenaltyfree "0"

// Team Survivors can use this many Medkits for free without any reduction to the score when playing in Realism gamemodes (-1 = use the value in l4d_stats_medkitpenaltyfree)
// -
l4d_stats_medkitpenaltyfree_r "4"

// Maximum score reduction (the score reduction will not go over this value when a Medkit is used)
// -
l4d_stats_medkitpenaltymax "1.0"

// Minimum Human players before stats will be enabled
// -
l4d_stats_minhumans "1"

// The amount of damage from a pounce to earn Nice Pounce (Pain From Above) success points
// -
l4d_stats_nicepouncedamage "15"

// Base score for a successful Nice Pounce
// -
l4d_stats_nicepouncesuccess "10"

// Base team score for surviving a Panic Event with no Incapacitations
// -
l4d_stats_panic "25"

// The amount of damage from a pounce to earn Perfect Pounce (Death From Above) success points
// -
l4d_stats_perfectpouncedamage "25"

// Base score for a successful Perfect Pounce
// -
l4d_stats_perfectpouncesuccess "25"

// Base score for giving Pills to a friendly
// -
l4d_stats_pills "15"

// Base score for Protect a friendly in combat
// -
l4d_stats_protect "3"

// Display player's rank when they connect. 0 = Disable, 1 = Enable
// -
l4d_stats_rankonjoin "1"

// Time to wait people to vote
// -
l4d_stats_rankvotetime "20"

// [L4D2] Realism score multiplier for coop score
// -
l4d_stats_realismmultiplier "1.4"

// [L4D2] Realism score multiplier for infected versus score
// -
l4d_stats_realismvsmultiplier_i "0.6"

// [L4D2] Realism score multiplier for survivors versus score
// -
l4d_stats_realismvsmultiplier_s "1.4"

// Base score for Rescue a friendly from a closet
// -
l4d_stats_rescue "10"

// Base score for a Round Restart
// -
l4d_stats_restart "100"

// Base score for Revive a friendly from Incapacitated state
// -
l4d_stats_revive "15"

// Base score for reaching a Safe House
// -
l4d_stats_safehouse "10"

// Silence chat triggers. 0 = Show chat triggers, 1 = Silence chat triggers
// -
l4d_stats_silencechat "0"

// Base score for killing a Smoker
// -
l4d_stats_smoker "3"

// Base score for saving a friendly from a Smoker Tongue Drag
// -
l4d_stats_smokerdrag "5"

// Play sounds on certain events
// -
l4d_stats_soundsenabled "1"

// [L4D2] Base score for killing a Spitter
// -
l4d_stats_spitter "5"

// Base score for killing a Survivor
// -
l4d_stats_survivor_death "40"

// Base score for incapacitating a Survivor
// -
l4d_stats_survivor_incap "15"

// Base team score for killing a Tank
// -
l4d_stats_tank "25"

// Maximum inflicted damage done by Tank to earn Infected damagepoints
// -
l4d_stats_tankdmgcap "500"

// Base score for a Tank thrown rock hit
// -
l4d_stats_tankthrowrocksuccess "5"

// Minimum playtime (minutes) to show in top10 ppm list
// -
l4d_stats_top10ppmplaytime "30"

// Number of seconds between Common Infected point earn announcement/update
// -
l4d_stats_updaterate "90"

// Base score for Not Disturbing a Witch
// -
l4d_stats_witch "10"

// Base score for Crowning a Witch
// -
l4d_stats_witchcrowned "30"

[SargE]

mmmmm killing bots I did....... Killing teammates deducts 250. The scores seem fair.

[supaflycpt]

Wanner speel ons?

[SargE]

Wat van vanaand!?

[matwalsh]

DAMMIT! full house on coop 1 and nothing on others...guess thats the universe telling me to work...

[Loukie]

lol told you dnt get rid of co-op

[SargE]

lol!
I had problems on server 11302. Was laggy, but not a network lag. Was getting 50 latency. When I played on server 11301 it played fine.

[matwalsh]

weird cause they are both on the same physical machine, just separate instances. Has anyone tried versus lately?

[drakcore]

Guys check your links, can't play at all with ms jumping from 30 to 950ms+.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\drakcore>tracert 172.18.12.146

Tracing route to l4d2.vines.ctwug.za.net [172.18.12.146]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms rb1.drakcore.ctwug.za.net [172.18.56.126]
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms link-drakcore.moonfruit.ctwug.za.net [172.18.254.173]
3 1 ms 1 ms <1 ms link-moonfruit.goofy.ctwug.za.net [172.18.254.105]
4 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms link-goofy.io.ctwug.za.net [172.18.255.253]
5 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms link-io.europa.ctwug.za.net [172.18.255.98]
6 5 ms 8 ms 4 ms link-europa1.kingpin.ctwug.za.net [172.18.255.133]
7 5 ms 6 ms 6 ms rb4.kingpin.ctwug.za.net [172.18.28.244]
8 360 ms 230 ms 422 ms link-Kingpin.skouperd.ctwug.za.net [172.18.255.109]
9 521 ms 224 ms 179 ms link-skouperd.mamemos.ctwug.za.net [172.18.254.98]
10 130 ms 155 ms 60 ms 172.18.12.253
11 13 ms 10 ms 12 ms rb.vines.ctwug.za.net [172.18.12.134]
12 20 ms 16 ms 15 ms l4d2.vines.ctwug.za.net [172.18.12.146]

Trace complete.


C:\Users\drakcore>tracert 172.18.12.146

Tracing route to l4d2.vines.ctwug.za.net [172.18.12.146]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms rb1.drakcore.ctwug.za.net [172.18.56.126]
2 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms link-drakcore.moonfruit.ctwug.za.net [172.18.254.173]
3 <1 ms <1 ms 1 ms link-moonfruit.goofy.ctwug.za.net [172.18.254.105]
4 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms link-goofy.io.ctwug.za.net [172.18.255.253]
5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms link-io.europa.ctwug.za.net [172.18.255.98]
6 5 ms 3 ms 5 ms link-europa1.kingpin.ctwug.za.net [172.18.255.133]
7 20 ms 7 ms 7 ms rb4.kingpin.ctwug.za.net [172.18.28.244]
8 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms link-Kingpin.skouperd.ctwug.za.net [172.18.255.109]
9 173 ms 100 ms 100 ms link-skouperd.mamemos.ctwug.za.net [172.18.254.98]
10 15 ms 97 ms 144 ms 172.18.12.253
11 16 ms 12 ms 14 ms rb.vines.ctwug.za.net [172.18.12.134]
12 18 ms 16 ms 11 ms l4d2.vines.ctwug.za.net [172.18.12.146]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\drakcore>

[matwalsh]

I know drakcore, sadly not my link where the problem is - I don't think they have gaming scripts running there or there is some other issue, I know graphire took a look but not much more could be done.
The issue is (as pointed out by your trace) at the kingpin to skouperd link.

If anyone can make any suggestions or knows who to politely nudge to get this link sorted out it would be appreciated.

[matwalsh]

In case anyone still plays, physical servers were down, back up and happy again (and ping problem "appears" to be gone).

[SargE]

We need to organize a game again matwalsh. We need a sniper ;)

[matwalsh]

I want to play so bad but after hours work is KILLING me at the moment, was hoping to be done and dusted end jan but looks like I got a week or 2 more of it to deal with (plus I'm going to get kakked out by boss soon if I don't do a few modules of my studies) but I definitely going to try make some time soon, haven't played any games close on 2 months now :S

[SargE]

Well imagine the zombies is your boss and let loose your trigger finger :) Hope it goes well

[matwalsh]

lol, ya that would be great and all except one of my after hours bosses is my wife and her business partners :) don't think that will go down well ;)

[matwalsh]

Big update tonight 2.0.9.3 to latest 2.1.0.2

Busy uploading patches to TT (when can connect)
uploaded to dc.

[matwalsh]

Has been suggested to try run some type of a tournament or maybe challenges to up the zombie kill counter :)

Anyone have any suggestions?

[Refugees]

SFX Master update, Must I install the SFX Standalone 10.1.exe ?

[Refugees]

Agg No use.
Every time I want to Jam a game with a friend on the server, it is down.

[SargE]

Tournament ideas. Maybe start sam clans with members of 4. vs mode tourney with a point system, team that wins get a point. Other idea, see which team can finish the map the fastest on hardest or hard?

[matwalsh]

@Refugees - seems I have bad luck with that link although the actual server has been up since I did the update. seems to have been up recently no issues, I do a quick check most nights. Next time you are going to get on try browse to the web frontend (l4d2.vines.ctwug.za.net) and go to server status. If you can't get the website do a tracert. If its an issue actually running the connect command giving some form of error please send it to me so I can troubleshoot, would love to see some more zombie deaths.

@sarge - 4 vs is good, timing is the only challenge with getting people all on at the same time :) and the speed run idea could be cool, I'll need to check how to measure it though as I don't think the full credit run finishes (will make time to test) which shows how long a chapter took. I will see if there is any other ways to check this (maybe netgraph has some extra details).

[matwalsh]

@refugees - did you win with updating? I don't use SFX standalone, I use Gani's - should be in the tor and dc I think (l4d2sp 4.6.exe)

[Refugees]

Yep, How do I change my name? I have already tried "name Refugees" but my name stays "SFK" :(

[matwalsh]

When you install standalone patch at the end it should offer you the option (standalone should be Gaming extreme / Gani not SFK)

[SargE]

Any l4d2 game on 2night? We should make games on the days the masses can play. Suggestions on Wednesday night or Thursday nights etc. 1 hr away from the wife, after wards you can still make her happy as well....